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Moneyless Human #4 - Sonja Kruse
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Next up in the Moneyless Human series is Sonja Kruse, a 35 year old South African woman better known as the Ubuntu girl. She has wandered from London in the UK to the Northern Cape of South Africa, and all around her own country, on a mission to find the real meaning of Ubuntu.
Living without Money by Sonja Kruse
My name is Sonja Kruse, aka, the UBUNTU girl and I’m a proud South-African who knows very little about economics, politics or religion. But a little bit about people, love and spirituality.
A few years ago I was hit by a deep melancholy: Why are South-Africans so negative about this magnificent country of ours? Perhaps given our history, this was inevitable. I learnt of the term UBUNTU (NO, not the operating system, but the African Philosophy)
UBUNTU: umuntu ngumuntu ngabantu
People are people through people. I am because you are.
In the words of Archbishop Desmond Tutu: “…the essence of being human. Ubuntu speaks particularly about the fact that you can't exist as a human being in isolation. It speaks about our interconnectedness. You can't be human all by yourself, and when you have this quality - Ubuntu - you are known for your generosity.”
And this UBUNTU is everywhere in South-Africa but we have forgotten.
Around this time I started dreaming about walking around South-Africa with a backpack, a camera and R100. I did not understand but did not question the dream, rather escaping there when the collective negative energy became too much. It took 4 years before I set off in pursuit of this dream. Not asking: Why? How? What if? Simply packed a 33lt backpack, took a camera and R100.
The aim of the journey was to experience UBUNTU and compile a book about all the people met; to remind us just how connected we all are. And the easiest way to tap into this connection and to interact with people was to HAVE to ask for everything needed for my survival. From food, shelter, transport to toothpaste. No tent, no sleeping bag, no food, no water, no transport. Getting around by foot and by thumb (walking and hitching). In South-Africa we still have separation in the way we live. Different races, people from different income brackets. And there is a lot of fear in South-Africa due to a lack of knowledge of these differences between people. The dream showed me that bridges need to be built.
1 year
150 families
16 different cultures
9 provinces
114 towns
So, the main purpose of this journey was not about moneyless living. Rather about connecting with people. Yet, one of the most astonishing things that I’ve learnt is that money can be a big divider of people. Because of its pre-conceived value, it affects the way we treat one another. It’s almost easier to be human without money.
An example from the road:
It was a hot day in the Karoo. 9am and already 40°C. A scorcher. I was walking along a tar road and came across some roadworkers. The one guy was literally in a hole in the road, surrounded by tar and working with it. If it’s 40°C on the side of the road, it must be at least 50 in there! When I thanked him for doing this work in this heat of the day, he was quite surprised, pleasantly. And it got me thinking: Do we thank people for what they do everyday? Or do we think: It’s his job; he gets paid to do it. If he doesn’t like it, he should get another job.
So, why did I leave with a R100? Was it security money? Hardly! It became a symbol. On the journey, I had visions of returning WITH the R100, in effect handing it back to South-Africa (in a ceremony) to show us that our humanity is not tied up in money. If you are truly connecting with people and respectful of others, the gift that you give by just being there is your currency. In fact, I returned with R142.50 and the R100 note was used by one of my host families to write a letter of encouragement on, in case I needed some along the way.
The journey without money ended when my year on the road ended, though I’m still not generating an income and still unsure as to how to live from now onwards. A system of barter appeals hugely to me and Mark Boyle is a huge inspiration.
The fear of living without money is what prevents a lot of us from even contemplating an alternative lifestyle. We are all on our own path of life, in a world shared with many and we are all at various stages of consciousness. Therefore there are many different approaches. Can we at the very least question our relationship with money and how it impacts the way we treat others? And can we question how money has perhaps affected/infected our inner knowledge, our inner dialogue and our conscience when we consider how we consume today. Well, these questions will be the UBUNTU girl’s starting point for the next leg of the journey. What will get you thinking?
(Thank you for taking the time to share that Sonja - Mark)
If you want to find out more about Sonja, she has a blog called Ubuntu in Abundance, and you can also find her on facebook (by the way, if you enjoy this please click 'like' at the start of this blog and add a comment, thereby sharing it with your friends).
In the next edition, we'll hear from The Moneyless Human #5, Adin Van Ryneveld, another South African who again has been living moneyless from a completely different perspective than me. Adin shares the same Ubuntu philosophy as Sonja (it's a worldview much more generally understood in their part of the world), but has altered it for the modern age and called in Nu-Buntu. I look forward to sharing it with you.
THE FREECONOMY BLOG is written by Mark Boyle, who has been living for over two years without money, and is the founder of the Freeconomy Community. He is the author of The Moneyless Man
Comment on this Post:
Trish Young comments ...
This is a lovely account of your journey Sonja.
Moneyless abundance !
Love the meaning of Ubuntu.
Thank you and thanks Mark.
Joanne comments ...
Hi Sonja, i applaud your courage and convictions that you would survive without money. I lived for some time in SA and was right there with you on the Karoo road....the uncomprimising heat and the pungent smell of the tar.
I'm sure this experience will have changed the way you view the world....and perhaps we should make it obligatory, like a rite of passage, for all to undertake such a journey. Good luck to you in our next life journey. Jo
Chrissy comments ...
People are people through people. I am because you are.
That is such a wonderful way of being, thanks for your story Sonja, it is so encouraging, I love the way you see the whole picture of the interconnectedness, may you always be blessed,
Chrissy
comments ...
Hi, thats interesting! People are people through people. I am because you are. We are more than ourelves, we are we, thats good.
Those words ubuntu, umuntu etc, reminded me of a story called "The scars of Umlungu", so, I looked it up, but, I dont think theres a connection. In fact umlungu is S African, and a bit derogatory, but its an interesting story, heres a quote from it:
The fences built for the colourless ones were not yet finished. There was more to come. Umlungu didn't care about the problems he made for my people. What did it matter that a mother, for lack of firewood, could not cook for her children? Umlungu had a bigger problem: deforestation.
We had no experience of hoarding, of planning scarcity when there was enough. We had not learnt that one person might exact a price from another. We gave freely what God had already given.
Umlungu said he was not starving us. We could always buy firewood. Go to the shop and use the button without holes, he said. His brother who owned the shop wanted plenty of that button. But the button didn't like my people at all. It took one look, made a sharp U-turn and went right back whence it came. The coloured-eyed people hoarded it all. And the gold. And the land. To own. While we still wondered: how can a person claim a star as a personal possession?
Its at:
http://www.newint.org/features/1992/04/05/scars/
Also heres something interesting and paradoxical about asking people to give! (I think its because people like to feel needed, certainly that is part of a cure to get someone out of depression, I have found)
Its a little story by Benjamin Franklin: when he served in the Pennsylvania legislature in the 18th Century. In his autobiography, he explains how he dealt with the animosity of rival legislator:
Having heard that he had in his library a certain very scarce and curious book, I wrote a note to him, expressing my desire of perusing that book, and requesting he would do me the favour of lending it to me for a few days. He sent it immediately, and I return'd it in about a week with another note, expressing strongly my sense of the favour. When we next met in the House, he spoke to me (which he had never done before), and with great civility; and he ever after manifested a readiness to serve me on all occasions, so that we became great friends, and our friendship continued to his death. This is another instance of the truth of an old maxim I had learned, which says, "He that has once done you a kindness will be more ready to do you another, than he whom you yourself have obliged."
Best wishes to you.
Sonja Kruse comments ...
Thank you so much Mark. The more we are reminded of the humanity that lies within us all, through stories of others, the more we can connect with one another. Hopefully in my case, that will lead back to a deeper connection with nature, as ...in your case ;-)
Thank you for all that you do
Marina comments ...
Sonja, you are such an inspiration. What an incredible journey of the heart, as well as of the landscape, that you have embarked upon. Many blessings to you. Thanks to Mark, too, for sharing these beautiful stories with us.
MikeFromPeru comments ...
Great Post!! - like always.
Mark, I´ve got a question for you. How do you plan on attending the O'Porto TED talk?
Fergus comments ...
Sonja, it is certainly true what other commentators have said about your journey being an inspiration and you share some lovely insights. I do wonder though about your example of thanking the guy working on the road. Now, of course, on the face of it, thanking people and especially those doing a thankless task is a lovely thing to do. However, this kind of reminds me of those who would thank 'our' troops for fighting in Afganistan, even to the point of regaling them as heros. Now, first and foremost, no matter how much I disagree with such troop deployment, I recognise that first and foremost, for whatever misguided reasons such people have decided to do what they do, they are fellow human beings in a difficult situation; I can empathise with them on that level, wishing for their safe return home etc but I could never, in good faith, thank them - no matter how pleasant they might find that. Similarly, I could imagine engaging that road worker in conversation, empathising with his situation, offering him long welcome swigs from my water bottle. But somebody actively involved in the continuing uglification of the world, actively scaring the landscape with polluting infustructure, I could not thank.
Best wishes Sonja for your continuing journey and thanks Mark for making this forum available to learn from. x
Carla Hanreck comments ...
Hi I know you are at the Bath Lit Festival. Are you up for doing any more talks in the year? we have a festival with a Green Day that might be a mutual meeting of minds.
Gary Ford comments ...
I like this quote:
"it's almost easier to be human without money."
Celest Chan comments ...
yah, no doubt most of moneyLess man support this quote! hope that moneyMore man will understand it !
Mark Boyle comments ...
@ Fergus - yes I agree (I've often noted that when people shop in charity shops, few ever take the time to thank the assistant there for volunteering etc). I think it is possible to help someone and share whatever you've got with them, without agreeing with what they're doing.
@ MikefromPeru - I'm just trying to work that out at the moment! It certainly doesn't make it easy! And it helps you understand why people just take a two hour flight, especially in this time-poor, pressurised world we live in today.
MikeFromPeru comments ...
Mark,
I Hope all is well.
I was asking because I've been given a place at the TED talk and I'm thrilled about it, and was hoping I could find a way over there with you, but my dad will be coming with me and he's not in the best of health (suffered 2 strokes some time ago and is still going!)... Hence, I have to admit guiltly of buying a flight to O'Porto. Hopefully I'll be able to meet you once there if you are not swarmed with people trying to do the same. I'm sure watching Peter Joseph and yourself give your respective talks in the same place will be a very interesting and an unmissable experience.
Let me know what plan you come up with if possible please (chanchazos@gmail.com) - I know you are very busy man.
All the best man,
Mike
kyle comments ...
Thanks Sonja for sharing a lot of good thoughts and important questions. Thanks, Mark, too, for giving other moneyless wanderers, like Sonja a platform through your blog to share their wonderful journeys with us.
I agree that money causes divisions and creates more chance for people to live in isolation, much to their own detriment. I started reading a book that was given to me on the street by a random stranger-become-friend, called "Affluenza", by Oliver James. I'd recommend people getting their hands on a copy as it rather sensitively and scientifically shows how there is an inverse relationship between well-being and affluence, no matter which country we are from.
On that note I found myself reacting a bit to what you shared about being proud to be S. African. I can't say that I feel "proud" to be British, as our empire-building, alliances and decisions have cost millions of lives. I think nationalism may just be another cause of the great division. At the same time, I can understand that it is good to accept whom we are and where we come from and the people around us, that, in many ways, influence or define us.
Thich Nhat Hanh wrote a book called "Going Home", which resonated with me several years ago. From memory, rather than encourage people to change their religion (from say Christianity to Buddhism, or vice versa), he encourages people to be sincere in getting to the roots of whatever culture or tradition they are from, where, at the heart of things we are one anyway. Perhaps this is what you were getting at through what you said about being proud to be S. African? Please forgive me if I have misunderstood you here.
By the way, isn't pride the opposite of humility? Or am I being too simplistic here?!
Jo comments ...
Hi Mark,
Long time no see. I'm in Thessaloniki at the moment. Just read that you are trying to work out how to get to Porto... Well from experience I would say it's a 4-5 day hitch and as long as you take enough food with you there will be no worries. In case you didn't know, the channel crossing is per vehicle, not per passenger, and you just need to ask someone outside the ticket office at Dover if they can add you to their ticket for free. Sometimes people don't believe it's free or that simple but trust me, it is.
Looking forward to your Ted talk,
Jo
http://agirlandherthumb.wordpress.com
Bob comments ...
@Sonja: Thanks for sharing your travels and experiences with us. I admire your bravery.
At the end of your article you pose some great questions.
a)"Can we at the very least question our relationship with money and how it impacts the way we treat others?"
And
b)"can we question how money has perhaps affected/infected our inner knowledge, our inner dialogue and our conscience when we consider how we consume today".
In response to your first question, I would have to say that I think the human race (in general) is enslaved by money and it makes us see others as competitors for resources rather than brothers and sisters. We work in jobs we don't like, doing things we don't believe in just so that we can take home the pay cheque at the end of the week. If that's not slavery, I don't know what is. The funny thing is that 99% of the population see this as normal!
There are so many good people trapped in the money system, who have been "infected" by the idea that they would die without money. All the wealth of the Earth does not vanish as soon as you give away your last penny (as the money masters would have us believe). Money is just an illusion created to move theoretical wealth from one place to another. Even if all the money in the world was destroyed, the true wealth of the earth would remain unchanged. We just have to share it, instead of buying and selling it!
In response to the second part. I have touched on how I feel people have been infected by the idea that there is no life without money, but I feel there is more that can be said. The way we value each other and the earth around us is tainted with the dollar and cents poison. Is this person rich or poor? Is this commodity valuable in dollars and cents? Is the value of my house going up or down? How will I survive when I retire? I need to work now to save for my retirement! It has definitely invaded our consciousness.
I liked what Sonja said about Ubuntu, because I think community is very important. In most traditional societies elderly people are highly valued for their wisdom and knowledge. But in our perverted selfish money orientated society we don't value the elderly any more, because they have stopped being "productive". I think if people had a community where the elderly felt like they were going to be cared for by their young people they probably would not worry about their retirement funds any more, which would be a huge load off people's minds. So much of the pressure to work for money comes from a fear of the future, which is a product of the mistrust and greed promoted by the money culture. As long as the majority of people have a "smash and grab" type attitude to life, most people will be afraid of the future. I guess we just have to be brave, like Sonja to take the first steps and give the world and example of what can be done "outside the money box".
Suelo comments ...
It really is about ubuntu, as Sonja so beautifully demonstrates, and living without money is an avenue toward ubuntu. I prefer my own life really being about ubuntu, not living without money. But "living without money" is bait that snags people's attention toward ubuntu, as we are right now drawn toward Sonja's splendid message.
Mark Boyle comments ...
@ Suelo - I couldn't agree more, as always, you said it better than me! Money is one of a handful of tools that separates us from each other, what we consume, and the Earth. Take it away and we become dependent on our friends, the people we love, and our local environment. With it, we're still dependent, but instead of faceless strangers we'll never have a real relationship with.
Thanks Dan (for more from Dan see the blog Moneyless Human #1)
jason palmer comments ...
if you have lots of money from selling a book and a child in africa dies, because you spent the money on land, instead of giving the money to the child in africa then... are you resposible for that childs death ?
betweenthelines comments ...
Are we collectively, or individually, responsible for any of the suffering that goes on in the world? Hmmm... interesting question.
Personally, I think it's terribly unfair to suggest that Mark is responsible for the death of a child because he used the proceeds of his book to purchase a plot of land for the freeconomy village, rather than directly using it for the child.
Is it possible that through Mark's hope of providing a free space for people that MORE funds/resources will end up being channeled to needy kids in places like Africa, even if it is indirectly? What I mean is... if scores of people (or even just one or two) end up choosing to sell their possessions and property in order to go and live in a communal space, such as the Freeconomy village, then could that at least provide an opportunity for MORE resources to be channeled to where they are sorely needed (e.g. in Africa)? Of course if may not happen like this, but I'm fairly certain that any good initiative will have a positive knock-on effect.
If people stop living isolated existences, working for money, buying things they don't need, which could be diminished through sharing resources communally, then this could end up positively influencing other corners of the world. I guess the question, "Does the means justify the ends?", is relevant here. You could say that the money spent on the land comes out of the mouths of the poor children in Africa, but then if we were able to look back in 10 years time and see all the good that may come from the Freeconomy village/model, would this offset the initial "loss"? I don't know.
I don't think there are any comprehensive or easy answers to this. From memory, Mark battled quite a bit over his decision about what to do with his book (i.e. to use the proceeds of the book to purchase land, or to wait until someone offered land, or to give away all the proceeds etc.). It wasn't an easy decision to make, but to blame Mark for that decision - especially after he enlisted the help of the rest of us to make it - is, I believe, very wrong. You could say that all of us are responsible for the death, poverty, suffering etc. experienced elsewhere in the world, until we spend 100% of our time and 100% of our resources to alleviate it. Are you responsible, Jason, for the suffering that is currently going on in Africa, due to you not being there to help out practically, or due to choosing not to channel all of your funds/resources (if you have any) in that direction? I'm not asking this as a judgment (especially as, for all I know, you're living amongst the poor as an unpaid volunteer right now!), but simply as a question that any one of us needs to ask ourselves when we choose to ask such questions of others first!
It is a good question, though... asking ourselves how responsible WE are for what goes on elsewhere, even when we can't see it, but when the decisions we make each day have a direct or indirect effect on what goes on. Perhaps the degree of our responsibility is proportional to the amount of resources we have that we could share with others, the amount of skills we have that we could use to benefit others, and the amount of opportunity we have to use all of this in the pursuit of helping others?
I'm sure no one (even sister Teresa) would have been able to put their hands up in the air and say that they did all this perfectly and did not feel some responsibility for the ails of the world, they didn't directly work at alleviating.
jason palmer comments ...
'there is no wealth but life' - john ruskin
'there is no goal but land' - mark boyle
betweenthelines comments ...
'there is no goal but land' - mark boyle
That was a cheap shot, Jason, and very unfair. You obviously don't know Mark.
My (fairly limited) understanding was that Mark's idea of purchasing a plot of land was to provide some kind of platform/space for the wider freeconomy community to experiment with a number of alternatives, like communal living, sustainability, sharing skills, resources etc., all without needing money. Please correct me if I'm wrong here, Mark.
To sum up Mark in those terms was totally uncalled for and completely unfounded. Mark is obviously sincere in tackling issues head-on through personal change. If you wish to demonstrate a better way, then why not share what you have in mind, Jason, without trying to denigrate others on the front line, having the courage to give it a go. The fact you didn't answer my question in the previous post is an indication that you would rather make unfounded judgments about what other people are doing, rather than coming up with some constructive criticisms, or positive solutions, yourself.
Hopefully your next post proves me wrong.
Chrissy comments ...
For those people who have a burning desire to help children and people in other lands, I suggest you follow where your heart is. No amount of money will alleviate the suffering until we have a fair society. Most money you give will be misused, or misunderstood, or not get there. So I reckon the best way to help people is to be there to help them.
I also feel that many kids and adults in uk are also suffering, I do not really understand why so many "missionaries" need to travel abroad to help people when there is SOO much to do on our own doorsteps. Quite funny when you hear about missionaries coming to uk from africa, why do we not see the need that they do? Wonder how we got so patronising as a country?
And for the critics, take the plank...
jason palmer comments ...
sorry for my comments,I now realise that everyone has free will, and free options, in life, this is the lesson of free things
I am using the freeconomy in london to offer free websites for anyone who wants one, this is working well.
Each to their own method, in the world.
hugs to mark
Frederick Dsouza comments ...
Sonja Kruse is the unofficial ambassador of UK . Whatever good she does in South Africa will be an inspiration for other human. Migration is good .I just hope they don't reluctantly migrate and once there is treated by the citizens of new country as human. I wish officially of every country send 1000 people each to every different country as an cultural exchange programme to be taken care of their needs and people should also stick to their needs, instead of migrating for job purpose in which case almost always in some way gets exploited by their new country. Eliminating borders will be the fastest way to the best peace we can get . Zeitgeist movement wants such borderless world. Some people go in the name of missionaries to convert people to their own religion which in most cases not welcomed. Unless people be concerned about their fellow human well being no matter which part of the planet they are in ,things will change very little.
betweenthelines comments ...
@ Jason:
Thanks for your comments. Are you saying that you only now realise that people have free will and that previously you didn't? I'd be interested to hear what has changed in your thinking.
I'm not saying this to have a dig, but merely as an observation. You had a go at Mark for wishing to purchase some land (which he would be giving to people) in order to help them find freedom away from the money world.
However, it sounds like, from your recent post (and emails to the freeconomy mailing list), that the method you propose to end suffering in places like Africa is to "use the freeconomy in london to offer free websites for anyone who wants one" because (in your own words) "I have to create a portfolio of sites before I can charge people for sites". Can you see the irony?
While any good we do (e.g. offering our services for free) is to be applauded, we won't find freedom and/or help to free others, if our primary motivation is to use others for the purpose of making money. This is why it pays to really judge ourselves, especially in terms of our own motivation(s) for doing anything, including offering apparently free services, before judging others first.
Again, I may be really off here, but I felt it was necessary to raise this issue, because you didn't appear to want to answer the question I raised previously yourself.
@ Chrissy:
I liked what you said here:
"No amount of money will alleviate the suffering until we have a fair society. Most money you give will be misused, or misunderstood, or not get there. So I reckon the best way to help people is to be there to help them."
I agree that throwing money at problems often creates more problems. One of the hardest things for an NGO to do in developing countries is to channel funds in a way that is responsible and doesn't end up creating more corruption, which usually ends up widening the gap between rich and poor further. What is needed is an investment of time, skills, accountability etc., which most people are not prepared to make. Money in itself does not feed people. You have to go over to where the hunger is and ensure the money gets turned into food which ends up in the mouths of the people who most need it. What is most needed, therefore, is personal interest in caring for others which will lead to us changing our lives (so that we can more spend time amongst the poor, for example), either home or abroad.
I agree with Frederick: "Unless people be concerned about their fellow human well being no matter which part of the planet they are in, things will change very little".
Sonja Kruse comments ...
WOW. I'm astounded by all the comments. Thank you all so much for the thoughts and for taking the time to pen them. Within these dialoques, the learning starts.
With social media we are in effect, re-creating, virtually, a Pangaea. Our universe is becoming small as it intrinsically expands, wrapping around itself.......and us.
SO:
@Kyle - you make such a valid point about South-Africa and nationalism. The aim of this journey, the vision, is to build bridges. Because of South-Africa’s past [Apartheid and sanctions], our people are a divided people. And I guess as a South-African, that’s the starting point. We can be in love, in Pangaea, only when we are in self-love. So, only once South-Africans can fully embrace ourselves, our past, can we add value to all. Extending that love.
@Fergus – Whilst walking, at times I felt, saw and smelt no human touch. Only nature. And fell in love with it’s raw state. So, I can relate to your feelings about ‘uglification’ of our world. The fact, however, is that South-Africa [sorry, Kyle haha ;-)] is a young economy, where a lot of people are only now tasting the ‘benefits’ that the world wants us to believe we all need: cars, money and the like. In order to make a difference, perhaps we need to always make a spiritual connection, a namaste, no matter what the different circumstances or different personal views are. We are, after all at different levels of consciousness
@Jason Palmer– Perhaps collectively we are all responsible. Someone asked me at one of the talks: But how is what you are doing helping the woman with her 2 kids begging on the street corner every day? The only logical answer that came to mind was the analogy of the 4-minute mile. Up until the point where the mile was run in under 4 minutes [by John Walker], humans could not conceive that this was possible. So, it is about pushing our human bar of possibility. Raising the bar of collective consciousness. Buddhists believe that we can not change the world around us, we can only change ourselves. In doing this our views of the world change. We all have different ways of giving. Directly and indirectly. Feeding that child is one way we can help. Feeding our collective energy is another. For others add to the pot, by telling stories as a means of instilling moral values. For some it could be singing songs, sending vibrational energy.
@Bob – Thank you. Agreed, imagine a world where we realize that we are slaves? That’s why Mark is such an inspiration. If he can do it, so can we. Working on getting there ;-)
@Frederick Dsouza –SO glad we are connected
@Suelo – hey there. You have such a gift with words. Thank you for sharing with us
@Mark – thank you as always, for ‘stretching’ us – not only by making us an extention of yourself, but by stretching our thought processes, challenging us to be better ;-)
Thank you for all the other comments, for getting the mind into motion and for the info on ‘The scars of Umlungu’ and the Benjamin Franklin story
i am because you are because we are
x
Jeanette comments ...
Wow I have only just heard of MArk and followed a link to this blog. Sonja's story was the first post I read and it's like another world has been shared with me. Words like courage, strong, dedicated and selfless come to mind but don't seem the right ones to use so for now I will just say thanks and let you know that a seed has been planted in my mind.
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